"You can listen in on the phone you know"
Dial it.
At least they can't ring you while your phone is off the hook.
Black Sheep
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Getting serious for Julia!!
by Julia Orwell inno, there's no jc scheduled for me, though i've heard from a friend on the boe that the inquisitor is about to get inquisited himself.
you will see who i mean in this thread: .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/246766/1/julias-inquisition-two-elders-the-full-version-i-want-you-all-to-see-this.
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My quick introduction
by Adam Believed inhi, all.. ive been lurking and reading for many months now.
i have been an active member of jwrecovery for sometime now.
its iphone friendly!
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Black Sheep
I mean, don't waste the time between you realising that you are in a cult and when you out yourself.
Most of us blow our chance of taking our families out with us by IDing ourselves as the WT's dreaded APOSTATES before we remember all of the warnings that the WT gave our families that will ID us as 'the enemy'/Satan's minions/whatever. Talking to people who are less important than your family members about your doubts about the WT has a huge failure rate if the comments on this forum are anything to go by.
I would prefer that you learn from our mistakes, rather than your own.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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Black Sheep
Grace is my alternative Granny. Even if we don't agree on everything I still love her to bits, so don't bring her into this.
"finding common ground with our objectives" + "we are religiously-neutral" = cog dis for me.
As I see it, the only 'common ground' is disagreement with the WT church's teachings, not an agreement on better alternatives for the teachings/rules of the GB's sad little cult.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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Black Sheep
... our church outreach program ...
What can I say?
Does cognitive dissonance ring any bells?? You won't be herding this cat into any alternative cult's "outreach program".
If the WT is not Jehovah's true church, it isn't up to me, or the AAWA, to provide an alternative.
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Fish in the sand and dove leaving the WT
by dissonance_resolved inso i've been pondering that there must be quite a few active jws out there who are conscious/awakened/lurking, but it's so risky to ask questions to find out they are.
i'm sure this isn't anywhere in the watchtower, but i've read that early christians had the secret symbol of the fish to help identify friends, i.e.
drawing a fish in the sand would secretly identify someone as being a christian.
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Black Sheep
So .... you want to organise a secret handshake on the internet ....
.... good luck with that ....
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How should I respond to JW relative?
by Resistance is Futile inso i've been talking to one of my jw relatives lately, she's a young adult, born-in.
i've never openly said i don't believe in the governing body, and i've been asking her questions in order to get her thinking.
so i asked her if she believed watchtower publications were inspired and equivalent to the bible.
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Black Sheep
Always project the image that you want to be a true believer. If they suspect you are an APOSTATE they will run away.
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How should I respond to JW relative?
by Resistance is Futile inso i've been talking to one of my jw relatives lately, she's a young adult, born-in.
i've never openly said i don't believe in the governing body, and i've been asking her questions in order to get her thinking.
so i asked her if she believed watchtower publications were inspired and equivalent to the bible.
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Black Sheep
Dumb is good. Encourage her to dig her own hole and then ask her to dig her way out of it.
You can provide her with failed WT farticles, but don't express your own opinion...... ever.....
Try to only use articles that she has access to. Assuming she has a WT CD you could ask her to type 'shortly within our twentieth century' into the search box and comment on the only article that the search finds. Do not comment yourself
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My quick introduction
by Adam Believed inhi, all.. ive been lurking and reading for many months now.
i have been an active member of jwrecovery for sometime now.
its iphone friendly!
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Black Sheep
Welcome to the forum Adam.
Please remember that Elders are not your friends and they are not your family. Save your questions for people who are important to you, and then leave them to answer your questions rather than providing your answers for them.
I wish you both all the best for the future.
Cheers
Chris
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need help
by Crazyguy infirst post, been lurking for a bit.
i have been seeing problems in the org for a couple of years now and could not come up with any answers.
recently i researched the topics of mediator and new covenant and thats when the sh8t hit the fan.
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Black Sheep
Lie
Right now, it is all about damage control.
You forgot all the warnings from the platform and the ragazines about Apostate Spotting Lessons and now it is time to remember all those warnings and not cross any lines.
Profess to still being a faithful believer, it's just that you have been looking for answers to these questions.
Cease asking. Do not demand answers. If they don't have sensible answers, that is their problem, you are just going to be a trooooo believer regardless. You don't want to discuss it any more.
Do not admit that you don't believe that the WT is not Jebooboo's Channel, etc.
Sorry I don't have any suggestions that you might like.... and welcome to our nightmare
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A CD "The Watchtower & Christ's Presence"
by mouthy inhas just come into my hands ,1920-1929.....is the one of you who would like it?.
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Black Sheep
They might have a copyright on them, Captain.